Thursday, February 22, 2007

lots of people talkin...

...about the current state of hip hop.

and honestly, most of 'em are full of shit one way or another.

but regardless... i managed to read two interesting things today that address the issue.

first, check out what J-Zone says about the "5 things that killed hip hop"

and also, check out the Redman interview on

as an aside, you gotta love Red's quote about being a young father and attending his kids boyscout meeting:

Some of them parents be grown as hell driving busses and shit, mustaches be everywhere. I be young as hell in there."





Blogger Kev frum BROOKLYN! said...

Wow, I don't even know where to begin, so much good stuff was said.

12:04 AM  
Blogger facet.squared said...

Cool. I enjoyed both of those.

1:49 AM  
Blogger Charlie said...

love that redman quote - pretty much sums up how i feel everyday on the job.

7:54 AM  
Blogger Kev frum BROOKLYN! said...

Along the same lines of these to articles, on the new Little Brother mixtape, ...And Justus For All, Phonte makes an interesting point about the lack of creativity. He basically says, if we hear an established artist rhyme over a beat, then another established artist rhyme over that same beat , why does anyone want to hear some unknown dude and his crew spit "300 random unfocused bars" over that beat again? Or even more why not take the bars you've worked so hard on and put them on a new beat and make a new song? I really feel the 2nd point, cause really, most of the time, emcees pick hot beats and it's clear they're trying to make up for their lack of lyricism.

10:49 AM  
Blogger facet.squared said...

The point about album cohesivenss is my biggest beef with today's albums. Soundtracks are more focused today than a hip-hop album. I hardly ever listen to an entire album today. I'm tired by track 5. Unlike older albums where I can' t leave until the last track is done. It would be like leaving a movie you love before the end. Now if I like 7 or 8 seperate tracks on a recent album, I consider it good. But these aren't compilations, it's a damn album! My own standards have dropped in order to be able to enjoy more albums than I should.

I think that's why the novelty of the Danger Doom album never wore off... because it has that cohesiveness that's so hard to find today. That's why Ghostface's joints are always fire and why Masta Killa's "No Said Date" is my favorite hip-hop album of this decade thus far. An old cat's greatest hits record is more cohesive than a new release.

12:10 PM  
Blogger Russ the Bus said...

i totally agree with most of j-zone's points, and while i really liked the 'double edged sword of the internet' section, its all shit that's been said. and Really, how legitimate is it to defame 'internet gangsters' on the internet.
while i am that kid that red mentioned (white, suburban, and even I know what's wrong with hiphop), a lot of this 'hip hop is dead' rhetoric sounds like a gandpa berating the kids about how he used to have to walk thirty miles in the snow to school everyday.
Yeah, i used to have to go up to canal street or to newark to get new hot music 10-12 years ago, but i'm not gonna keep doin that now just to preserve my pride. and i love the fact that i dont have to. i love my instant gratification.

you gotta take all this shit for what it is. there's just so much more hiphop music being made now, so yeah there's a lot more crap than ever before. but its that volume that keeps hiphop in the public eye and legitimates it for people that were able to completely ignore it in previous generations. you got mos def rockin in brooklyn with a full fuckin orchestra, you got college courses on the poetry of tupac, you got a lot of not just good shit, but unbelieveable shit happening at the same time. it's not all laffytaffy.
but i did have a friend recently call lil wayne the new q-tip, and he's from brooklyn.

its 2007 mothafuckas, this is the future.

2:20 PM  
Blogger Russ the Bus said...

ok , this is belated, but i just found out they had a party at southpaw last monday at southpaw for a viewing of the White Rapper Show finale followed by performances by Persia, John Brown, and GChild.
You're boy J-Zone held down the 1s and 2s for Persia and JB.
Call it what you want, im not gonna judge, but he's certainly not taking himself too seriously.

4:45 PM  
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